Exarion - Today at 11:11 PM is E1E2 toto on frame 180 supposed to happen I either get that or FEFF this is with the practice rom, with me playing from new game to a manually made toto save wsopboy91 - Today at 11:13 PM you mean on the same save file? Exarion - Today at 11:14 PM yeah wsopboy91 - Today at 11:14 PM ive never seen it Exarion - Today at 11:14 PM I've just started practicing on one save file when I get frame 180, it's either FEFF or E1E2 never gotten anything else so it seems unlikely to be text boxes I'm holding B for everything gunner says he suspects it's possible to clear a text box too early and produce different RNG that seems unlikely, but he's pretty experienced with gold toto manip I've gotten similar behavior with the surrounding frames (178/179/181/182) wsopboy91 - Today at 11:18 PM did you try save stating right after your timed A press to make sure youre doing textboxes right it can only be 2 things textboxes or print letter delay i havent had any inconsistencies so far in my toto testing i havent paid much attention to any totos though besides frame 179 Exarion - Today at 11:34 PM yeah this is weird no matter what I do, it seems to be 50/50 on these 2 totos from a save state wsopboy91 - Today at 11:39 PM hmm can you send me the save state save state of hitting frame 180 already or rather tell me your exact inputs maybe youre just doing something wrong Exarion - Today at 11:47 PM Attachment file type: unknown crystal_dvcheck_1_8.gqs 87.73 KB it's happening with both controller and keyboard so I don't think the held B input is being dropped or anything like that(edited) I don't see how this could be text boxes when I've done as much red extended manip as I have wsopboy91 - Today at 11:56 PM ok well thats just weird so its not execution theres something wrong Exarion - Today at 11:56 PM I'm getting the E1E2 even when I feel like the text boxes are absolutely perfect have you tried with that save state? wsopboy91 - Today at 11:56 PM yea i got E1E2 and the FFEF Exarion - Today at 11:57 PM ok I'm gonna post this in psr