PROS - No Roar - Fire Blast misses - 15 DV outspeeds Rapidash, 14 DV ties - Better Arcanine range - Allows Blue before Janine CONS - Extra turn on Jasmine - Small chance Bellossom lives - 14 DV ties Persian, 13 is slower - Persian range (favorable) - More damage on average from Blaine - Extra Fly movement CONCLUSION: Definitely do it with 14-15 DV Speed, probably not with 8-13 DV, never with <8 DV because Charizard ties/outspeeds