standard reroute (r3 bug catcher + wild + hiker nob) + candy to 33 for jiggly and candy to 41 for pidgeot (no charcoal) (can switch to nido candy route on good pace or bad hp/sp. atk for onix) (can also fight top hiker, butterfree guy or pidgey/nidoran girl instead of killing wild) (can also usually fight any 2 of the 3 above instead of route 3 bug catcher, if you prefer your hp/ember/wild exp/stats after brock. need 51 pre-brock exp for top hiker + butterfree guy, 53 for top hiker + pidgey/nidoran girl, and any for top hiker + pidgey/nidoran girl. just be wary of L17 for pidgeotto) good: - can run lower speed (-2) - no need to save early ember pp (-5) - safer moon (-4) - 18 pidgeotto (-4) - 19 rattata (-1) - 24 raticate (-3) - 29 misty (-2) - 30 weedle (-0.5) - 30 cubone (-0.5) - 30 slowpoke (-2) - 31 machop/onix (-1) - 33 jigglypuff (-0.5) - 33 graveler (-3) - 34 clefairies (-3) - better onix range with 31 iv (-0.5) - skip wing attack (-7) - 37 rhyhorn (-0.5) - 37 kangaskhan (-1) - 38 wartortle (-3) - 39 marowak (-1) - 41 pidgeot (-0.5) - 41 blastoise (-2) - 42 drowzee (-0.5) - no pp management in gio's gym (-0.5) - easier to teach sunny day and fire blast together (-1.5) - 52 viridian rival (-5) - better candy menus (-3.5) - extra level + 5 spa EVs for e4 (-27.5, depends on stats but never higher than -33 because old route could get silph candy) TOTAL: -85.5 bad: - take pewter center (+12) - get 32 wild exp (+4) - fight route 3 bug catcher instead of lass (+1) - less blaze in moon (+2.5) - fight hiker nob with geo range (+21) - 24/25 for rival (+5) - worse deathwarp options (+1) - more boat heal uses (+3) - can't fight L25 geodude in rock tunnel (+2.5) - slower erika's gym (+9) - tighter pp before heal pad (+1.5) - extra elixer (+6) - 42 for kanga (+2) - 45 for muk + 45 for blaine OR instead of 46 for muk OR 48 for blaine (+3) TOTAL: +73.5 ---------------------------------------- skip first forest trainer, fight minion for 257 more exp good: - skip first forest trainer (-35) - 13 + metal claw for geodude (-7) - can 3hko onix with geo attack boost (-1) - 15 rattata (-1) - 16/charmeleon for moon rocket (-8) - 18 pidgeotto (-4) - 19 rattata (-1) - 24 raticate (-3) - save a candy or use it early (-25) - 29 misty (-2) - 30 weedle (-0.5) - 30 cubone (-1) - 30 slowpoke (-2) - 31 machop (-1) - 33 jigglypuff (-0.5) - 33 graveler (-3) - 34 clefairies (-3) - 37 kangaskhan (-1) - 40 blastoise (-1.5) - 41 drowzee (-0.5) - more money for charcoal (-1) TOTAL: -102 bad: - fight minion (+66) - extra heal for brock (+3) - ember pp is worse on average because of sand and defense curl (+2) - fight hiker nob with geo range (+21) - 24/25 for rival (+5) - slower erika's gym movement (+3) - 41/42 giovanni (+5) - no blaine candy flexibility (+1) TOTAL: +106 ---------------------------------------- candy to 22 for nidos route good: - safer moon (-3) - 18 pidgeotto (-4) - 19 rattata (-1) - safer route 25 hiker (-3) - 24 raticate (-3) - late-game candy (-25) - 29 misty (-2) - 30 weedle (-0.5) - 30 cubone (-1) - 30 slowpoke (-2) - 31 machop (-1) - 33 jigglypuff (-0.5) - 33 graveler (-3) - 34 clefairies (-3) - 37 kangaskhan (-1) - 40 blastoise (-1.5) - 41 drowzee (-0.5) - more money for charcoal (-1) TOTAL: -56 bad: - fight route 3 bug catcher + 32 wild exp instead of lass (+15) - fight top hiker (53% geo) (+3) - fight hiker nob (guaranteed geo) (+15) - fight butterfree trainer (guaranteed) (+23) - 25/26 rival (barely matters) (+2) - slower erika's gym movement (+3) - 41/42 giovanni (+5) - no blaine candy flexibility (+1) TOTAL: +67