Dragonite-less+early fossils+late charmander route idea To do the new charmander LG, we need to either keep a protein from the shopping trip, or obtain 1 at some point later. This route explores the idea of replacing the pokedolls with the protein, though revive and burn heal are also options. Shopping 7/8 balls 1 para heal 1 super potion 99 great ball 99 Super repel 93 Revive 1 Awakening 1 burn heal 1 ice heal 5 Water Stone 34 Fire Stone 4 Leaf stone 3 Thunder Stone 1 protein 1 hp up 1 iron 1 Calcium TM-->Calcium-->Badges Ultra ball-->j.(options) j.(rival name)-->Tileset Bike-->Calcium poke balls-->revive Burn Heal-->Cancel Walk Set options Toss options TID 2-->Master Balls Rare Candy-->j. Toss Candy Toss iron revive-->TID Master Balls Teleport deposit super potion Deposit 16 great balls Deposit Candy stack Same T-Flies coin case-->Cancel Ice heal-->Poke Flute-->TM40 Great balls-->Lower Candy stack Same as usual Low Candy stack-->Old amber-->j. (toss 27) Helix fossil-->Bicycle-->Old amber Awakening-->Old amber toss 12 max elixir Master Balls-->soulbadge toss 248 j. Walk 3 up 1 left Fossil manip follow poke dolls toss 1 after last swap 3 right toss 3 from tileset, bike out Bike to Gym door, use PC (may be faster to use pc in center) (withdraw pikachu if not already in party) soda-->dolls eevees soda-->dolls After entering Mansion, swap j. to warping, toss 38 swap moon stones for hp up Evolve eevees+pikachu After mansion exit building to safari dig+fly to celadon LG for dratini Change boxes after OWRB (2 in party) Old man, Thunderstone-->Money TM-->TM Ultra ball to warping, toss 8 electabuzz exit to coast tentacool after coast (may not go to party :( ) Super repels-->9f Helix fossil-->Master balls HM04-->Master balls TM37-->4-->Fullrestore Old amber-->4 Soulbadge-->Ball LG for venonat on route 11 evolve gloom to plume here Standard route 3 (no charmander) Standard forest Do Poliwag LG from diglett's cave Do charmander LG after trade (swap protein, ropes to 15, ultra balls to 14, swap to tileset, to pokedex, ropes to 2/3, swap protein) Ball Magmar Crazywarp (see below) Catch 3 balls, catch drowsee and sandshrew if needed, OWRB from hitmonchan Fly to Celadon Game corner Snorlax LGs (after rhyhorn, move 1 down before s&q, saves a jack) Warp to V Road Rest is standard route Pros: Removes j. from options earlier Less scrolling for moon stones, eeveelution and electabuzz 1/2 less PC uses Nicer LG item order Less party swaps due to no dragonite Saves menu flash for horsea Lower chance of level 5 tentacool Can skip box change at mt. moon Faster charmander LG Can ball magmar trainer Cons: Lower chance of redbarring tentacool Slight time loss in Crazywarp Catching vulpix but not fearow pre-crazywarp is awkward Route probably doesn't actually work for some dumb reason Other options: A better stack of cascadebadges or boulderbadges would be nice If all 3 caught on coast, may be worth doing tentacool LG (otherwise have to scroll through entire box to get it later) Could skip repels on coast, and do all the Cinnibar stuff in one trip (Fossils-->eevee-->Coast-->Mansion) Crazywarp can now be done at any point between Buying magikarp and krazywarp (later if have vulpix) could force early vulpix and switch crazywarp and krazywarp (route 11 from v road, route 21 from tower) Crazywarp strats: Need alakazam and vulpix (and fearow): Alakazam LG, walk to tile 2 left of channeler, bonk for encounter, burn heal to x pos Need alakazam, not vulpix: Alakazam LG, walk to 1 right of current tile, bonk for encounter (this may be worth it if need vulpix as well) Need alakazam and fearow, not vulpix Have alakazam, need vulpix (and fearow): walk 1 down, bonk for encounter, burn heal to x pos Have alakazam and vulpix: walk 2 up, bonk for encounter If you need fearow but not vulpix, do the vulpix starts and hope vulpix doesn't see you.